The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Then the conversation, which she was. "I've never cooperated in any way, shape or form.". A federal appeals court is separately considering an appeal of the conviction. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. Available on GOOGLE PLAY CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD FROM GOOGLE PLAY STORE. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. "John told me that I have one year, one year," Santillan says in the call. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. "You're my everything, you're my ride or die, you're my everything. More Episodes. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. Mongols MC President Potentially Exposed As A Snitch By His - Sherdog The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife The. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. David Santillan was the president of the Mongols motorcycle club for nearly 13 years, until he was voted out of the club in July of 2021. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. The video was recorded in June of last year, when, Ms. Santillan said, she felt scorned because her husband had been unfaithful and after she had obtained a restraining order against him for what she claimed was physical abuse. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. Live interview with Former Mongol MC Int Prez Lil Dave The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. The A.T.F. Ciccone said whenever he worked a Mongols event and there was the potential for problems or violence, he would go to Santillan because he's the president of the Mongols and can convey the message to his members. Ruben Cavazos (born December 28, 1956) is an American criminal, and former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.His autobiography, Honor Few, Fear None: The Life & Times of a Mongol, was published by HarperCollins in 2008. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. The current president of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is David Santillan, a man who claims that the organization has changed its code of conduct to exclude drug abusers and criminals. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. 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He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. Mongols attorney Joe Yanny says his clients want their 2018 racketeering conviction thrown out or at the very least a new trial. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Want to know whats wrong with the scene and why people are not joining clubs anymore? "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. He said their communication was for public safety and showed the Mongols that there is ATF presence at their events. MONGOLS MC National President lil Dave the coward mongo mongol 328 subscribers Subscribe 706 231K views 4 years ago UPDATE: The only reason that Lil' Dave is still the President of. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Judge Carter conducted an extensive inquiry to unearth any evidence that Mr. Santillan had cooperated with law enforcement and acknowledged his difficulty in explaining away the contents of the video. Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. Its a new age now, TIk Toc, FB,IG they are all doing it and worse of all creators on YouTube. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). But he concluded that there was insufficient evidence to set aside the convictions, and that the club had made no showing that it was likely to prevail in any retrial. Former federal agent testifies about his years undercover with the He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, Mr. Santillan, who sounded drunk and sounded distraught, said to her. Judge Rejects Claim That Mongols Biker Club Leader Was a Rat, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/us/mongols-informant.html. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. Anyone can read what you share. Now it's at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. "Because I needed evidence to show the military that they had someone having an affair with a married man.". There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. Mongols indictment continues to reverberate in courts During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. The A.T.F. The U.S. Attorneys Office has failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their trademarked logo. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. Was the leader of the Mongols motorcycle gang a double agent? - Los "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. Desperate ideas explained, Memphis Police Department officers were impeding care of Tyre Nichols, EMT says | CNN, Marine Corps eliminating its elite scout sniper platoons. In court Monday, prosecutors told Judge David O. Carter that retired ATF agent Ciccone will testify that Santillan was never an informant. "He's retiring, he's retiring. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. "I know we've had a rapport and I always looked out for you and you were always respectful. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. 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"Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. Black Dragon's Sunday Night Round Table discusses Insane Throttle's live interview with former Mongol's MC Nation's International President Lil' Dave. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team. MONGOLS MC National President lil Dave the coward - YouTube Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. All rights reserved. This is the final statement on this because honestly it's mundane and boring. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. Representatives from several local law enforcement departments also said they had no such records. if we Americanize the cartels that would make YouTube more entertaining, hurt Gore websites and save hundreds of thousands of lives. Self-Improvement. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. The president of the notorious Mongols motorcycle club promised he'd put his infidelities behind him, get sober and be a better father to their children. He tells his side of the story in the ongoing drama to clear his name. Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. She later recanted the assertion. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant (VIDEO) June 6, 2022 Biker News & Biker Lifestyle National Geographic Outlaw Bikers With Mariana Van Zeller/Hack Job December 6, 2021 mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Biker News & Biker Lifestyle Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- Testimony resumed inside an Orange County federal courthouse on Wednesday morning for a hearing in which a judge will decide if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. 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The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC - Insane Throttle Biker News mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Live with Former Mongol MC Int. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO: Mongols MC President Lil Dave on - Apple Former ATF agent denies that Mongols motorcycle club president served John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. Join u. AboutPressCopyrightContact. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. In June, he'll watch as. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College.

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